snick_backup: (Buffy Willow)
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The above title should be read in a suitably faux-German sort of voice.

[livejournal.com profile] penny_lane_42 recently wrote an intriguing post on id!fic. Basically, id!fic is fic that may or may not be reasonable, logical, in-character, or in any way good story, but that you eat up with a spoon anyway. So like narrative kink, only more so.

(For another fabulous post on fanfic and The Id (or at least a pop culture bastardization thereof) see [livejournal.com profile] ellen_fremedon's classic essay on slash, shamelessness, and the id vortex.)

Now, some writers embrace their id and write it all out there, and that can be a fabulous thing. Self-awareness FTW. But often when I'm reading a fic I find myself wanting to tap the author and say, "Pardon me, did you know your id is showing?"

So, a couple of us got to wondering what our fics revealed about us. Hence this anonymeme. Are our ids showing?

The Rules:
1. Comment as yourself, with your name/LJ-handle in the title of the comment
2. Link others to your link
3. Comment anonymously on others' ids, as revealed in your fic
4. Play nice!

ETA: Or, yanno, not so anonymous. Sign in or no; either is fine.

Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 01:11 am (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
What dastardly, pernicious, slightly embarrassing trends do you see in my fic? Spill!

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com
Well, when you write the first ever mpreg fic I've ever read, believed, and felt emotional resonance with, I can't exactly call you dastardly or pernicious, now can I? Slightly embarrassing, though -- well, it is mpreg, after all!

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
Am I supposed to be anonymous? I don't care--I'll say that you've accomplished what you intended to with "Seraph": redeeming a cracky premise. So yeah, your fascination with pregnancy and all that that entails shines through, but it does it in service of story and character. I like following you through that id vortex because you lead us safely through. :D

Eowyn_315

Date: 2010-05-21 01:31 am (UTC)
next_to_normal: (Dawn wide eyes)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
*feels awkward*

Have at it!

penny_lane_42/Lirazel

Date: 2010-05-21 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
Do I even want to do this? What bizarre Freudian stuff are y'all gonna come up with? *chews fingernails*

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 02:02 am (UTC)
next_to_normal: (Thinky James 2)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
Heh, well, the obvious answer would be mpreg, but I'm trying to think about your fic as though I don't already know what your kinks are, and see if I could figure that out from the stories.

And I'm not sure that I could. Well, I'd definitely spot the Spike&Dawn friendship trend, but that's not especially pernicious or embarrassing, lol. But the way you wrote Seraph makes it seem very un-id!fic-like, because it's not needlessly self-indulgent, IMO. As someone who doesn't like mpreg, I didn't find myself thinking, "Okay, enough of this, let's get on with the plot already." Or maybe it's just that it's well written enough to disguise the idness. :)

Re: penny_lane_42/Lirazel

Date: 2010-05-21 02:04 am (UTC)
next_to_normal: (Buffy hee)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
I feel like your use of parentheses should reveal some sort of dirty secret about you, but I'm not sure what, lol.

Re: penny_lane_42/Lirazel

Date: 2010-05-21 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
Ha! Me, neither!

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 02:42 am (UTC)
snickfic: (Buffy hungry)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
First, I just want you to know that you ALL FAIL this whole anonymity thing. FAIL.

Second, I suspect it doesn't hurt that your id and my id have a certain amount of overlap... :)

(I totally have an Icon of Id. From canon, even!)

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
I KNOW! I'm such a sheep--I saw [livejournal.com profile] eilowyn's name and I just went with it!

Yes, I suspect that that is true....

(That is AMAZING.)

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 02:47 am (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
I actually worked really hard to fit the id!parts in naturally and make it readable to a wider audience than just, well, me. 'Cuz I was well aware of the idness of it all. The very first bit I wrote was an opening scene that I threw out entirely because it had Spike being wibbly and woe-is-me. (Well, and also because it ended up not making sense plotwise and had unlikely logistics in it, but yanno, such is the fate of first drafts sometimes...) Much iddier (more iddy?) than what actually got posted.

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 02:51 am (UTC)
snickfic: (Dru who me)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
So the question is, who is it slightly embarrassing for - you, or me? *g*

Re: Eowyn_315

Date: 2010-05-21 02:53 am (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Yanno, I got nothing. You definitely have a Spuffy kink a mile wide, but we already knew that. And I'm fairly positive that passionate commitment to canon is not actually a kink.

Hmm...

Re: Eowyn_315

Date: 2010-05-21 03:14 am (UTC)
next_to_normal: (Buffy pout)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
See! Told you my id was broken...

I think it might be that the passionate commitment to canon rules out any kind of kink that might be id!fic, y'know? Because it's all gotta be reasonable, logical, and in-character if I'm going to like it. Even Spuffy - I obviously ship them like woah, but I'm still pretty picky about what I like to read. Id!fic, it would seem, suggests that I'd read it no matter how bad, as long as it hits my kink, which is not the case.

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 03:16 am (UTC)
next_to_normal: (kitty reading)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
I actually worked really hard to fit the id!parts in naturally and make it readable to a wider audience than just, well, me. 'Cuz I was well aware of the idness of it all.

That makes sense. I guess it depends on who you want your audience to be. I think a lot of id!fic is written either solely for the author's enjoyment, or for that group of people who share the same id kinks, and so there's no real effort to make it appealing to a larger audience.

Re: Snickfic

Date: 2010-05-21 03:17 am (UTC)
next_to_normal: James Marsters with his hand on his head; text: bollocks (Bollocks)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
Hahaha, we totally suck.

Re: Eowyn_315

Date: 2010-05-21 03:20 am (UTC)
snickfic: (Spike disapproves)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
I think it might be that the passionate commitment to canon rules out any kind of kink that might be id!fic, y'know? Because it's all gotta be reasonable, logical, and in-character if I'm going to like it.

I think you might be right. Makes sense to me, anyway. Darn you and your over-civilized tastes!

Re: Eowyn_315

Date: 2010-05-21 03:29 am (UTC)
next_to_normal: (Buffy sigh)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
*sigh*

Sorry. I will try to be less of a buzzkill.

Interesting observation, though - my early fic was MUCH more iddy, IMO. This is the stuff that never got posted, mainly because I later thought it was extremely silly. But my initial instincts were much more in line with the collective fandom id (happy endings for Spuffy, fixing all the bad things like DT or "Chosen"). I'm not sure whether that shift is indicative of me becoming more civilized, or just more cynical, lol, but over time I have realized that I don't want those things at all.

Re: Eowyn_315

Date: 2010-05-21 03:36 am (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Spike hate you)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
I think cynicism might have something to do with it, plus just more exposure to fandom. After a while, a person just gets to be a harder sell for all the same old fannish tropes. (Or at least some people do. Some people don't, it seems, judging from what gets recced by some of the old-timers.)

angearia/Emmie

Date: 2010-05-21 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
Am I doing this right? Bueller?
Edited Date: 2010-05-21 07:03 am (UTC)

Barb C/Rahirah

Date: 2010-05-21 04:13 am (UTC)
rahirah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rahirah
I'm going to regret this...

(I have a good idea what my several varieties of id fic are, so I guess I want to see if they're as glaringly obvious to everyone else as it is to me.)

Deird1

Date: 2010-05-21 04:30 am (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Default)
From: [personal profile] deird1
What about me?

Re: Barb C/Rahirah

Date: 2010-05-21 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com
I can actually comment on this since I've exhaustively consumed the Barbverse - so I think one id fic tendency of yours is your adherence to your own canon - and that personal canon is extensive, with worked out genealogies and timelines filling in events in the lives of about 20-30 major figures (when we include the OC's) for up to and including 60+ years. I think you do like family fic, though not necessarily baby fic, but more fractured domesticity as only a still-soulless Spike could do - and oh, yeah, Redemptionista, thy name is Barb. But the concept of family is big - Buffy and Spike end up having five children, which is far more than the average family, and much of the early Barbverse features Dawn as de facto child in domestic Spuffy setting, even if that setting moved to Pylea on occasion.

Who gives a damn, anyway? Your id is my id, and I'm happy you're there to feed it.

Quinara

Date: 2010-05-21 06:27 am (UTC)
quinara: Buffy looks up with a bloom of yellow sparklies behind her. (Buffy sparkles)
From: [personal profile] quinara
Have at it!

Re: Barb C/Rahirah

Date: 2010-05-21 06:40 am (UTC)
quinara: Spike and Buffy approaching 'their' tree in AYW. (Spuffy tree)
From: [personal profile] quinara
Hmm, well, your id seems to like Spike as a well-fed purry cat, with Buffy feeding and sexxing and petting him into contentment, but with the possibility of yellow eyes (and verbal claws) coming out if he gets crotchety. As for Buffy, your id seems to really like it when she owns her sexuality and completely goes with it, having public sex for the hell of it or admitting that she likes getting it five times a day or accepting that a semi-sexual position is the most comfortable way of sitting. Otherwise my brain is coming up with a word association of 'glomp', but I'm not sure that's an adequate description...

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