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HOUSEMATE: Besides, he's pretty sexy.

ME: Oh?

HOUSEMATE: Yeah, you know, with the trench coat. Did I tell you I have this thing for trenchcoats?

ME: I see. So all this time, "Spike's my favorite character," blah, blah, and now the truth comes out.

HOUSEMATE (weakly): Well, he's a really interesting character, too. Very complex.

ME: Uh huh.

HOUSEMATE: And also, I sort of have a thing for guys carrying torches for girls who don't respond.

ME (thoughtful): Hmm. But this whole Spike/Buffy idea... still icky, right?

HOUSEMATE (almost entirely certain): Oh, yeah. Still icky. The stalking is really creepy.

ME: And then there's the smoking.

HOUSEMATE: Yeah.

ME: I mean, blood breath's bad enough...

HOUSEMATE: But blood breath and smoking...

ME: Yeah.

Date: 2010-03-31 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adorkablefae.livejournal.com
lies. There is nothing not sexy about Spike.

Well, I guess except that he likes Buffy. And I don't know that I could date a smoker... And blood doesn't specifically ick me, but hey, I don't think I'd want to kiss him right after he ate.


Hrmm... I see you have brought up valid points. I will consider your statements and then push them far from my mind and continue to lust after the hottness of Spike. *g*

Date: 2010-03-31 02:06 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Liking Buffy makes him not sexy? I'm confused.

But yes, I'd say some post-dinner toothpaste would definitely be in order for this vamp. :)

Date: 2010-03-31 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adorkablefae.livejournal.com
Buffy is about my least favorite part about the series. I'm a freak, I know, but I can't stand her.

Date: 2010-04-01 08:42 pm (UTC)
snickfic: (Buffy desert)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Then it seems to me it'd be sort of difficult to enjoy the show. She takes up rather a lot of it. I felt "meh" about her for a very long time, but at long last I'm coming around and appreciating a lot of things about her that I couldn't see before.

Date: 2010-03-31 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
Well, I guess except that he likes Buffy.

WHAT? Is this insulting my girl????

*clutches pearls*
Edited Date: 2010-03-31 02:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-31 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
I'm over here GASPING too.

Date: 2010-03-31 04:20 pm (UTC)
next_to_normal: Three-paneled close-up of Buffy in The Gift; text: Big Damn Hero (big damn hero)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
You save me so much time.

Date: 2010-03-31 07:29 pm (UTC)
next_to_normal: Spike looking smug; text: smugpire (smugpire)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
Really? That is awesome.

...Do you do laundry, too?

Date: 2010-03-31 02:24 pm (UTC)
shapinglight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shapinglight
Someone doth protest too much, I think.

Date: 2010-03-31 02:25 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Well, journalistic objectivity is not guaranteed in these matters. There may some bias in the reporting...

Date: 2010-03-31 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
HAHAHA!

I cannot tell you how much I'm vicariously enjoying these posts. I LOVE THEM.

I sort of have a thing for guys carrying torches for girls who don't respond.
I think your housemate and I should be BFFs.

But blood breath and smoking...
Actually...good point. But! Maybe vampires don't retain scents or something! So he doesn't smell like blood and smoke! *makes it canon*

Date: 2010-03-31 03:49 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Yay! They greatly amuse the housemate, too. I tell her that there's a whole housemate saga on my LJ now, and she is tickled.

Maybe vampires don't retain scents or something! So he doesn't smell like blood and smoke!

No no no! Smell is important! (I actually have a serious thing for scents and smells and odors. It comes up all the time in my fic. It's even one more reason to love writing Spike - he's got that enhanced vampire sense of smell, so I have an excuse to focus on the smells.)

Date: 2010-03-31 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
YEAH BUT making out with somebody who has blood-and-smoke breath? GROSS. I have to find a way to get around this!

Though I do have a bit of a kink for descriptions of Buffy-smells (and others, too) from Spike's perspective as long as it isn't "Buffy smelled of vanilla" which makes me stabby.

Also, I feel that way about color. I'm very, very sensitive to it. Weird, huh?

Date: 2010-03-31 03:56 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Buffy destiny)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
I tend to read colors in terms of taste, especially candy. Like, when I go clothes shopping and look at the sweaters, in the back of my mind I'm thinking "Chocolate, green apple Jolly Rancher, grape, mocha...
Edited Date: 2010-03-31 03:57 pm (UTC)

*uses a very appeal color-scheme icon*

Date: 2010-03-31 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
That is so interesting!

I don't think I label them in my mind, but there's nothing better than a really great description of a color: apple green is a great one, and I just read "fish-belly white" the other day which just made me FLAILY.

It comes up in my work: the first section of "Scarlet and Midnight" is...scarlet and black. Then it moves on to a kind of dingy green-and-brown, then to opal shades like inside a shell, then back to scarlet and black again (there may be other stops in between, but those are the ones I remember). The reunion scene in "Love and Blackmail" was all about gold and ivory (with a bit of black). "Ministers of Grace" is either candlelight gold or jewel-tones from stained glass windows, depending on the section--with the scarlet blood on pure white being a big deal, too.

Tell me about smells!

Re: *uses a very appeal color-scheme icon*

Date: 2010-03-31 04:40 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Lorne)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Smells are hard. About all you can do is compare them to other smells, and there's only so much a vocabulary you can build from that. (I've always been curious whether other languages are better built for this. French, maybe, with the national history of perfumes and cooking?)

But that doesn't keep them from regularly popping up in my work. I've written two drabbles that are basically nothing but smell - the recent Faith/Giles piece and an old Oz/Willow piece, which seems to imply that smell's an important romantic element for me. Faith/Giles, in particular, keeps presenting itself to me in terms of scents, including ones that I wouldn't ever associate with either Faith or Giles.

But scents are also really important for setting. You know in Seraph, the last night before the surgery, when Spike's getting some quiet time by himself in the basement and notices Joyce's lemon-scented cleaner masking the earthy basement smell underneath, and how it reminds him of the grave? Like that. In terms of writing that worked for me, that was huge.

I was just now rereading "Ministers of Grace," and while I see lots of references to snowy white and then the one big slaughter scene at the end, I don't see that much explicit discussion of color. So I'm guessing for you it's as much implied as it is explicit? That the "color" of a section is as much in the word choice and general ambiance as it is the specific colors mentioned?

Speaking of colors, I tend to associate different words of the alphabet with different colors. Like, things with J's tend to be orange. S's and R's usually mean red. L's and N's are blue/green, depending on context, and Th's are brown, which means Tolkein's languages are usually a blending of all those colors. B's are also blue.

Re: *uses a very appeal color-scheme icon*

Date: 2010-03-31 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
About all you can do is compare them to other smells, and there's only so much a vocabulary you can build from that. True. I'd never thought about it in quite that way before, but you're right.

Yes! I remember that! Nicely done! I like to wonder how Cora smells to him...does she have different smells in different moods? Is he more attuned to her because she's his daughter? How far does it go?

So I'm guessing for you it's as much implied as it is explicit? That the "color" of a section is as much in the word choice and general ambiance as it is the specific colors mentioned?


Definitely. Sometimes it's really important for me to communicate the color explicitly to the reader--L&B, for instance. But often it's just the way it feels to me that makes me associate it with a given color.

A's are yellow. B's are definitely blue. But I see L's as pink. Huh!

Re: *uses a very appeal color-scheme icon*

Date: 2010-04-01 06:25 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Is he more attuned to her because she's his daughter? How far does it go?

I'm honestly not sure. I'm a little hampered here by not having much hands-on personal experience with infants. (That's actually the single biggest reason that thoughts of a sequel are at a stand-still right now.) It's fun to wonder about, though.

Date: 2010-03-31 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebcake.livejournal.com
Heh. Just keep talking, sister. What ep are you guys up to? It won't be long now until she is entirely one of us! (I still think we ought get toasters or something for all our hard work converting people.)

Date: 2010-03-31 03:52 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Spike lounge)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
We just finished "I Was Made to Love You" last night. We're pausing and taking a breather before experiencing "The Body." (Also, housemate reports that Spike has become considerably more skeevy and possibly less sexy now that he's ordered a sexbot.)

As for toasters: we inherited the most bizarre toaster when we moved into this apartment. It's a Hello Kitty toaster, and it toasts Hello Kitty into the sides of the toast. It's like buttering your bread and finding Elvis in the grain. It's weird.

Date: 2010-03-31 04:26 pm (UTC)
next_to_normal: (Default)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
It's a Hello Kitty toaster, and it toasts Hello Kitty into the sides of the toast.

I don't know why, but I kind of want one.

Date: 2010-03-31 04:42 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
I... don't know why either. It's very peculiar!

(Also, the kids down here have an urban legend about how Hello Kitty was actually once a girl with cancer of the mouth. Her mother made a deal with the devil that the girl wouldn't die, so instead the devil turned her into Hello Kitty - hence Hello Kitty having no mouth. I've gotten this story from several completely independent sources.)

Date: 2010-03-31 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
So...this isn't like an inside joke amongst friends? This is actually...widespread? That is SO WEIRD!

Date: 2010-03-31 07:25 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
There's also a theory about how saying "Winnie the Pooh" summons 400 demons (they're precise about this number), but I can't remember just how it works...

It the evils of children's marketing, taken to new levels!

Date: 2010-03-31 07:31 pm (UTC)
next_to_normal: (S8 not kidding - vampy cat)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
Well, that makes it rather creepy. :\

Date: 2010-04-01 12:10 am (UTC)
silverusagi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverusagi
That's...weird.

Date: 2010-03-31 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
I think Intervention will get it done (official prediction!). Spike suffering for Buffy, the end! That's what got me. She's slowly making her way to being ONE OF US.

Date: 2010-03-31 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
My favorite thing in the world is how it starts out with him MAKING A SEXBOT but that episodes makes people ship it. I mean, how great is that? It's such a paradox! I'm in love with it!

Date: 2010-03-31 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
Oooh! And Snick should share [livejournal.com profile] mere_ubu's Spaiku at some point to drive home how wonderful that episode is!

Date: 2010-03-31 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
She is such a genius. She just blows my mind. And I miss her. *sigh*

Which is my way of saying YES! I SECOND THIS MOTION!

Date: 2010-03-31 07:05 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
I so will! Except I'll probably start with Crushed Spaiku, both because it's shorter (so a little less daunting) and because, unlike with Intervention (which I already loved), the Spaiku significantly changed how I felt about the episode. Spaiku made me come to terms with and love the episode in all its pathetic-Spike glory.

Date: 2010-03-31 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
The Spuffy Seduction of Housemate begins... Mwahahaha!

Date: 2010-03-31 07:23 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Results to be reported in realtime, folks, from right here in Honduras...

random commenter

Date: 2010-03-31 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanda380.livejournal.com
lolz, well, me and your housemate have something in common, there is something about a guy who holds a tourch for a girl who doesn't respond...but when she eventually gives in against her best interest...that can be the best part!

Re: random commenter

Date: 2010-03-31 03:54 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
Yep yep.

(BTW, you're welcome to friend and become unrandom commenter, if you like. It's a friendly place around here.)

Re: random commenter

Date: 2010-03-31 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowanda380.livejournal.com
awesome, I would love to be friends :0)

Date: 2010-03-31 07:03 pm (UTC)
snickfic: Buffy looking over her shoulder (Default)
From: [personal profile] snickfic
:)

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